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[Florida Code Talk] Questionable call by Building official
WR290 at aol.com WR290 at aol.com
Sat May 23 15:26:18 EDT 2009


 
I think he said he discussed it with the BO because he might want to be one 
 in the future, 
 
Tom
 
 
a message dated 5/23/2009 3:23:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
gyantorn at scgov.net writes:

This  issue is getting out of hand. Discuss with the BO and inspector. You 
may be  suprised. 

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Subject: Re: [Florida Code Talk] Questionable call by Building  official

Your backing down does nothing but to propagate the problem  state wide.

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I absolutely  understand.  

This is purely a business decision.  If he want  to take this official  on. 
He will not get a CO, His bank will keep  charging for extensions of his  
loan. Assuming he has a loan. And  probably 2 years down the road he might
get 
this issue done. What I see  is FR paint and a GFCI > The total cost is  
less

than 100.00.  

I have been down this road and it is not pretty. Not to mention that  this  
person is a contractor. I assume he will want to continue to  work with this

building department. 


Tom


In a  message dated 5/23/2009 2:21:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,   
jcoughlin at englehomes.com writes:

The  problem with rolling  over when you are right and the inspector won't 
listen is  sort of  like a dog humping your leg. If you let the dog hump 
you,

he  always  will and you will be his biatch.

Go to the BO first, then  get BIA  involved. This will work 95% of the time.

Rolling over is  NOT an  Option.

________________________________

From:  WR290 at aol.com  
To: Jay Coughlin; FineR at gtlaw.com ;  noleball at hotmail.com ;  
codetalk at myfloridacode.com 
Sent: Sat May  23 14:16:18 2009
Subject: Re:  [Florida Code Talk] Questionable call  by Building official  


Charles:

I was not going to  chime in on this.This is a  common happening. You can 
do 
one of two  things. Take a recorder with you and  tell him you are 
recording 
his  comments, send his comments along with a  complaint to DBPR. Or you 
can  
just make the repairs and go one with life. I  would absolutly  recommend 
the second option. 

Tom Ricci CBO
BT  Builders  Inc

In a message dated 5/21/2009 8:44:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight   Time, 
jcoughlin at englehomes.com writes:

This is typical of   some rouge inspectors. Call the CBO and it goes away
if not  in book,  can be resolved in one day normally.

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Subject:  Re: [Florida Code Talk]  Questionable call by Building  official

(This is not intended to be legal advice) 

If it were  me, and my county had a board of rules and appeals, I  would
file an  appeal.  In my experience, the filing of  an appeal is enough  to
lead to a discussion that frequently  resolves the matter without  the
hearing being  necessary.  And if it doesn't get resolved,  you have a set
date by which the matter will be resolved.    If  your county  does not
have such a board, you can use the binding   interpretation process in Fla
Stat 553.775 which is very  fast.  

Good luck

Robert

Robert S. Fine,  Esq.,  AIA


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Subject: [Florida Code Talk]  Questionable call by  Building official



I am trying to obtain a C.O. for a   residence we have completed and the
building official has  taken some  liberties with his judgement.  I
usually try  to do what is asked  of me by the building officials as I
will  likely be one one day but  this one is taking it a bit far.



We have installed an   attic ladder (aluminum ladder) in the garage and
the  inspector  refuses to issue a C.O. until the attic ladder and hatch
is painted with  fire resistant paint.  Further, he insists that  we
install GFCI  receptacles in the dining room (not kitchen)  which is not
required by  the N.E.C. or the Florida Building  Code.  I took the book to
him  and asked for him to show  it to me and he said that it is not in  the
Code but it is in  "his code" and it is what he wants to  see.  He insists
that the house will not pass until the hatch is  painted with fire
retardant paint and the recepatcles in the dining room  (not kitchen)  are
changed.



To make matters worse, he  is the electrical inpector  for the
jurisdiction and is not licensed  to do any other  inspections.  Does
anyone have any suggestions  on this  one?  Soem of you are building
officials on here and  may  be able to help me out.



Charles  Walker

CW  Building Contractor, inc

CBC 1250992    CCC 1325996 CFC 1427782   

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