[Florida Code Talk] Damage Responsibilities
Bob Koning
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Fri Sep 18 11:37:42 EDT 2009
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Ken, I am not an attorney so I cannot answer your question with any degree of legal certainty. I have however, been involved with several cases that involved a similar situation; one case involved a nail such as yours causing a small puddle leak which an elderly lady slipped and fell on going to the bathroom late at night. Her injuries were critical and extensive. Another case involved a nail such as yours penetrating the electrical conductor setting up a small fault current in the circuit which ultimately led to the electrocution of a plumber underneath the house some four years after the completion of the work. In each case the jury allocated and assigned the fault to each contractor, factoring those contractors who might have been involved but were not in the case (attorneys will refer to this as a Fabre defense and it must applied carefully and correctly or attorneys fees may be assessed). But, had you been sued by the owner, obviously there would be two issues involved; one, had it not been for your nail, the leak would not have happened and two, had the nail guard been properly placed your nail would not have penetrated the pipe. In my opinion the improper placement of the nail guard would be an affirmative defense a suit and might be grounds to dismiss a case against you by way of a summary judgment. However, I believe the other side would produce a "expert" that would testify that the nails should have been driven by hand thereby alerting the carpenter that the nail had missed a stud and entered a crack area or alternatively that a trained carpenter should have heard a difference in the gun the impact and known that the nail missed a stud and struck a pipe. Sound unbelievable that an expert would testify to such as an absolute? Trust me, attorneys can find experts to testify and swear to anything in today's litigious society. Remember experts cannot be sued for their "opinion". This has led to all extremes of lies and falsities sworn to under oath. I believe we need to change the law and hold experts accountable for their testimony to their respective professional licensing boards. Regardless of all of this, it has been my experience that you would end up defending yourself or your company in front of a jury. How would they rule? As I said, I am not an attorney, and it is situations like this whereby contractor has need not only of an attorney - but a board certified construction attorney. It is a specialty subset of law in my opinion, and most issues are not "black-or-white". R.J.Koning - Director Contractors Institute rjkoning at contractorsinstitute.com 8301 Joliet Street Hudson, Fl 34667 727-863-5147 From: codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com [mailto:codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com] On Behalf Of Bill LeMaster Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:31 AM To: 'Ken Rodgers'; codetalk at myfloridacode.com Subject: Re: [Florida Code Talk] Damage Responsibilities Was the plate the proper size? William T. LeMaster CBO/CEAP/MCP Okaloosa County From: codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com [mailto:codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com] On Behalf Of Ken Rodgers Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:45 PM To: codetalk at myfloridacode.com Subject: [Florida Code Talk] Damage Responsibilities Evening All, I know this isn't really a code question but hope I can get some feedback nonetheless. This is in regards to responsibilities for damages during construction & remodeling. Normally, it's pretty cut and dry and as such I take full responsibility to make repairs as needed for any damages I may have done. However, a recent minor incident just raised the question and thought I'd get feedback from others. After a recent bathroom remodel job, the customer called to let me know they had to call in a plumber to repair a leak in the hot water line. During installation of wainscoting over the existing sheetrock, one of my guys had shot a finish nail into it and it didn't start leaking until a few weeks later. There was a protection plate but unfortunately it did not completely cover the pipes and as luck would have it my guys found the exposed spot. So, the question is, since the plate was not properly placed, how much responsibility should I or do I bear? In this particular instance it's not really a big deal and I will most likely cover everything either way (certainly not worth getting into a dispute over). However, I just thought I'd bring this up as a sort of case study to get feedback for this and future issues. Thanks, Ken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://myfloridacode.com/pipermail/codetalk/attachments/20090918/e30581cc/attachment.html
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