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[Florida Code Talk] Concrete Footer
Donald Middleton Sr dmid2 at OSCEOLA.ORG
Tue Apr 20 07:45:46 EDT 2010


Good advice TR, the only code violation needed to begin the case is for building without a permit; the rest will sort itself out when he presents a plan.

Don Middleton
Chief Inspector
Osceola County, FL

From: codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com [mailto:codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com] On Behalf Of Hernacki Engineering
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:23 PM
To: 'mark martin'; codetalk at myfloridacode.com
Subject: Re: [Florida Code Talk] Concrete Footer

Hello Mark,

I assume your statement is that the Wall was built without a permit.  Hence the Code Enforcement Department would cite the property for "Building a Wall with out a building permit per the requirements of chapter 1 as adopted by your governing body".

It will then be upon the owner of the property under a Code proceeding to prove that the wall was built with a building permit.  If no building permit is found then the owner has 2 options: 1-Remove the violation -or- 2- Submit a permit for the structure.  If option 2 is chosen then the wall and corresponding support foundation would be required to meet the requirements of the FBC in affect at the time of permit application.

Allot of times it is cheaper to remove the violation and rebuild then to keep the old stuff and remediate it to current code.

If you, as an inspector, feels that the wall is a safety risk then you have the responsibility to notify the BO that governs this area.  The BO can make the next call as what to do.  But if you have a life safety concern the only way to CYA is to report it to the BO.  The client or owner may not like it but it is the only way to handle an unsafe situation.

TR Hernacki PE
Hernacki Engineering & Construction Services Inc.
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From: codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com [mailto:codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com] On Behalf Of Sam Greenberg
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 6:40 PM
To: mark martin; codetalk at myfloridacode.com
Subject: Re: [Florida Code Talk] Concrete Footer

The wall needs to be supported on a footing.  The Florida Building Code requires the use of the footing.  The wall needs to be braced immediately to prevent overturning and potential injury.

Samuel A. Greenberg, PE
DANSCO Engineering, LLC
P.O. Box 3400
Apollo Beach, FL 33572
samg at danscoengineering.com
813-645-0166 ext 100



From: codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com [mailto:codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com] On Behalf Of mark martin
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 6:33 PM
To: codetalk at myfloridacode.com
Subject: [Florida Code Talk] Concrete Footer

I have a jobsite with no footer under a 20 foot tall CMU bearing wall. The wall is already installed (illegally)  with no tie to the slab rebar. What are the ramnifications of leaving it without a footer & should I just ignore it since it is already done ? If not, what codes should I cite the builder with ?

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