[Florida Code Talk] Vapor Barrier
Joseph Lstiburek
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Sat Feb 6 22:25:24 EST 2010
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In a wall yes - unfaced insulation can be used in Florida. On the underside of a roof deck only air impermeable insulation can be used. A faced batt is not air impermeable. Low density and high density spray foam are air impermeable. >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006A_01CAA73F.D6584DD0" >Content-Language: en-us > >So what I'm hearing from you guys is that we don't even have to use >the faced batt insulation? Obviously, the advantage of using the >faced is the ability to use it to hold the insulation in place. > >From: codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com >[mailto:codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com] On Behalf Of Mark Cramer >Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:40 PM >To: codetalk at myfloridacode.com >Subject: [Florida Code Talk] Vapor Barrier > >What Dr. Joe said. > >You don't need a vapor barrier in cooling climates. You really don't >want one. If you did install one, you would want it on the exterior >(warm) side of the insulation. > >In our climate, water vapor will move in both directions (to the >interior and to the exterior) at different times of the year. The >difference in vapor pressure and temperature is not as great in our >climate as it is in extreme heating climates, so we typically don't >have the same issue with condensation as you would get in a very >cold climate. Better to let the vapor move through the wall in >whatever direction it wants, and make sure the wall can dry out. > >The biggest mistake I see contractors make in our market is the use >of foil faced foam insulation boards on the interior of concrete >block walls. This causes vapor moving from the wetter exterior to >the drier interior to condense on the exterior side of the foam >board (inside the wall assembly) where it creates conditions >conducive to mold growth. Better to use an unfaced board with a high >perm rating and let the vapor dry to the interior. > >In Northern climates where they do need a vapor barrier and are >using spray foam insulation, I've heard that they spray a layer of >closed cell foam to provide the vapor retarder/barrier then spray >open cell foam. > >Mark Cramer >Mark Cramer Inspection Services, Inc. >492 20th Ave. >Indian Rocks Beach, FL 33785 >727-595-4211 >http://www.BestTampaInspector.com > >From: codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com >[mailto:codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com] On Behalf Of Ken Rodgers >Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:01 PM >To: codetalk at myfloridacode.com >Subject: [Florida Code Talk] Vapor Barrier > >Can someone give me the code reference for interior vapor barrier >requirements over insulation. I'm specifically trying to find the >requirement (if any) for a vapor barrier over open cell foam. The >research I've done seems to indicate the need for a vapor barrier >over open cell but there seem to be a few other opinions out there >as well with regards to our part of the country. Just wondering if >the code addresses this specific situation. I'm sure this question >will also spark a good foam vs. anti-foam debate so I look forward >to learning from that as well. > >Thanks > >Ken > > >_______________________________________________ >CodeTalk mailing list >CodeTalk at myfloridacode.com >Unsubscribe by sending an email to codetalk-unsubscribe at myfloridacode.com >or >Unsubscribe or change your options at: >http://myfloridacode.com/mailman/listinfo/codetalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://myfloridacode.com/pipermail/codetalk/attachments/20100206/d646b06e/attachment.html
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