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Yes please take it the courts ya'll are causing me anxiety!

Chris Kavala
Marquis Const. & Dev. Inc. _www.southernsips.com_ 
(http://www.southernsips.com/) 
3714  Covington Drive
Holiday, Florida 34691
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Today's Topics:

1. Response to MEllis BASELSS remarks (Sam Nasser)
2. Re:  Response to MEllis BASELSS remarks (Schelle  Wood)

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Message:  1
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 15:10:50 -0500
From: "Sam Nasser"  <bnasser at cfl.rr.com>
Subject: [Florida Code Talk] Response to MEllis  BASELSS remarks
To: <codetalk at myfloridacode.com>
Message-ID:  <922FD76A2F83441B9845B270DC12EB64 at downstairs>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

This forum is to ask and to respond to  questions pertaining to Florida 
Building Code so that we all learn from each  other and the experiences we have.
It is NOT intended to post personal  issues or vent out. However, since Mr. 
Ellis MISSTATED & MISREPRESENTED  MOST EVERYTHING, I feel compelled so put 
in your hands the facts as  follows:

1. Mr. Ellis stated in writing that he completed and passed  rough Electric 
and requested and got paid $20,000 for doing  so.
Few days later I was shocked to learn that rough electric  was disapproved 
with penalty as you see below: 

Inspections for Permit Number: 000 000 ELEC 00 - ELECTRICAL PERMIT   

Inspection Type    Sched Date   Status   Results Date  
ELEC ROUGH    09/18/09    DISAPPROVED WITH PENALTY    09/18/09  

2. Mr. Ellis had all the time on earth to do his work but he provide  one 
electrician and the work done as described by others, is NOT to code and  
needs to be
redone as stated by electrical contractors who  came to bid on the work and 
stated, verbatim, the following:

"1-All the mc cables need to be re strapped right on the walls and the wood 
 truss in all 15 

units.They are not done to  code.

2-All the lights cr need to be pulled in  and piped in all 15 units. Note 
done yet. 

3-All  phone pipes need to be re done and mounted right and glued together 
in all 15  units. Not one right.

4-All ac pipes need to be  re done, glued and re piped in all 15 units. Not 
done yet and what is done is  not to code.

5-All panels need to be flipped over  and new service wire pulled in to all 
15 units. Not done to  code.

6-All out side plugs need to be on house  panel not off of in unit panel in 
all 15 units. 

7-All cr need to be traced out so we know where they go and wired right for 
 all 15 units.

8- The garage units need bigger  service wire pulled to it. The current one 
is too small for a car garage unit.  

9-All 15 units need the bath room light and fan  done right. They are not 
wired right.

10-Pull  strings need to be pulled in to all a/c and telephone pipes in all 
15 units.  Not done yet.

11-Add plugs where need be to per  code, not a made up print in all 15 
units.

12-Add  lights and plugs up where Air handler units are as per code for all 
15 units.  

13-Fix the ground out at the service. Done  wrongly 100%.

14-All house panel wiring need to be  strapped and checked.

15- All work in units need  to be done right, what is done is poor 
workmanship 100%."

3. Mr.  Ellis abandoned this project and stopped work since September 
because we  refused to sign a change order he requested for work that is clearly 
stated in  his 
proposal and is an integral part of his scope of  work.

4.  Mr. Ellis did not scheduled any inspections and have not  done hardly 
any work since September in spite of repeated requests to do  finish his work

5. Mr. Ellis refused to provide 17 electric panel  covers we paid him 
$10,000 to install.

6. The hold is NOT on the permit  held by Mr. Ellis. It is on the permit 
the City issued to the new Electrical  contractor we hired AFTER we fired Mr. 
Ellis.

7. We did NOT hire any  mediators. The person Mr. Ellis referred to is a 
personal friend of his who  happened to have worked for us and called me 
offering to resolve this as   
"Christian brothers" which I welcomed. In fact we did agree to  resolve the 
matter but TWO days later, Mr. Ellis changed the agreement which I  
refused. 

8. After waiting on Mr. Ellis for three months with NO work  done and no 
progress, I gave up and fired him. Wouldn't ALL of you do the same  when 
confronted with this   
unprofessional work  and fiasco???

9. The matter is being handled by DBPR and the legal  process and I feel 
sorry for wasting your time and boring all of you with this  trivial stuff Mr. 
Ellis brought on.
Therefore, I will NOT  write about it again because this is NOT the place 
for it.

Kind  regards,
Sam Nasser
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 8 Jan  2010 15:51:14 -0500
From: "Schelle Wood"  <schelle at dolphinsheetmetal.com>
Subject: Re: [Florida Code Talk]  Response to MEllis BASELSS remarks
To: "'Sam Nasser'"  <bnasser at cfl.rr.com>, <codetalk at myfloridacode.com>
Message-ID:  <CD4A69AB90244CEBBE429A08E47CD670 at dolphin2>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"

Please can someone get these two "gentlemen" 's  email off of our forum - I
mean don't allow either one of them access for  misusing this forum.

Rachelle  Wood

CSC056647

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From:  codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com
[mailto:codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com]  On Behalf Of Sam Nasser
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:11 PM
To:  codetalk at myfloridacode.com
Subject: [Florida Code Talk] Response to MEllis  BASELSS remarks

This forum is to ask and to respond to  questions pertaining to Florida
Building Code so that we all learn from  each other and the experiences we
have.

It is NOT intended to post  personal issues or vent out. However, since Mr.
Ellis MISSTATED &  MISREPRESENTED MOST EVERYTHING, I feel compelled so put 
in
your hands the  facts as follows:

1. Mr. Ellis stated in writing that he  completed and passed rough Electric
and requested and got paid $20,000 for  doing so.

Few days later I was shocked to learn that rough  electric was disapproved
with penalty as you see below:  

Inspections for Permit Number: 000 000 ELEC 00 -  ELECTRICAL PERMIT  

<https://egov.aspgov.com/ovdoc2gbp/InspectionStatusA.jsp?structureNumber=000
&structureSequence=000&permitType=ELEC&permitSequence=00&page=1&permitTypeCo
deDescription=ELECTRICAL+PERMIT+++++++++++++>  Previous Page

Inspection Type 

Sched  Date 

Status 

Results Date  

ELEC
<https://egov.aspgov.com/ovdoc2gbp/InspectionStatusB.jsp?permitTypeCodeDescr
iption=ELECTRICAL+PERMIT+++++++++++++&inspectType=ELRI&inspectSeq=0001&resul
tsDate=091809&resultsStatus=DISAPPROVED+WITH+PENALTY+&inspectDesc=ELEC+ROUGH
++++++++++++++++++++>   ROUGH  

09/18/09 

DISAPPROVED WITH PENALTY   

09/18/09 

2. Mr. Ellis had all the time on earth to do his work  but he provide one
electrician and the work done as described by others, is  NOT to code and
needs to be

redone as stated by  electrical contractors who came to bid on the work
and stated, verbatim,  the following:

"1-All the mc cables need to be re  strapped right on the walls and the
wood truss in all 15 

units.They are not done to code.

2-All the  lights cr need to be pulled in and piped in all 15 units. Note
done yet.  

3-All phone pipes need to be re done and mounted  right and glued
together in all 15 units. Not one  right.

4-All ac pipes need to be re done, glued  and re piped in all 15 units.
Not done yet and what is done is not to  code.

5-All panels need to be flipped over and  new service wire pulled in to
all 15 units. Not done to  code.

6-All out side plugs need to be on house  panel not off of in unit panel
in all 15 units. 

7-All cr need to be traced out so we know where they go and wired  right
for all 15 units.

8- The garage units  need bigger service wire pulled to it. The current
one is too small for a  car garage unit. 

9-All 15 units need the bath  room light and fan done right. They are not
wired  right.

10-Pull strings need to be pulled in to all  a/c and telephone pipes in
all 15 units. Not done  yet.

11-Add plugs where need be to per code, not a  made up print in all 15
units.

12-Add lights  and plugs up where Air handler units are as per code for
all 15 units.  

13-Fix the ground out at the service. Done  wrongly 100%.

14-All house panel wiring need to be  strapped and checked.

15- All work in units need  to be done right, what is done is poor
workmanship 100%."

3.  Mr. Ellis abandoned this project and stopped work since September  
because
we refused to sign a change order he requested for work that is  clearly
stated in his 

proposal and is an integral  part of his scope of work.

4.  Mr. Ellis did not scheduled  any inspections and have not done hardly 
any
work since September in spite  of repeated requests to do finish his work

5. Mr. Ellis refused  to provide 17 electric panel covers we paid him 
$10,000
to  install.

6. The hold is NOT on the permit held by Mr. Ellis. It  is on the permit the
City issued to the new Electrical contractor we hired  AFTER we fired Mr.
Ellis.

7. We did NOT hire any mediators.  The person Mr. Ellis referred to is a
personal friend of his who happened  to have worked for us and called me
offering to resolve this as   

"Christian brothers" which I welcomed. In fact we did agree to  resolve the
matter but TWO days later, Mr. Ellis changed the agreement  which I 
refused. 

8. After waiting on Mr. Ellis for three  months with NO work done and no
progress, I gave up and fired him. Wouldn't  ALL of you do the same when
confronted with this   

unprofessional work and fiasco???

9. The matter is being  handled by DBPR and the legal process and I feel
sorry for wasting your  time and boring all of you with this trivial stuff
Mr. Ellis brought  on.

Therefore, I will NOT write about it again because  this is NOT the place
for it.

Kind regards,

Sam  Nasser

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