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I should have been more clear in my understanding.  My understanding is that
the new codes for roofing installation became effective in all areas outside
HVHZ on March 2, 2002.  Anything permitted after that date should be subject
to enforcement by these codes.

Jack B. Harris

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:50:31 -0400
From: "Mark Cramer" <mcramer1 at tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Florida Code Talk] CodeTalk Digest, Vol 59, Issue 30
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I'm not saying you are right or wrong, but do you have a source for that
information? 

This is one of the problems with Wind Mit inspections. There are many
questions and no clear answers. 

It's illogical to think that shingle suddenly changed on March 1, 2002.
Shingles manufactured before that date could meet the standard. 

Mark Cramer
Mark Cramer Inspection Services, Inc.
492 20th Ave. 
Indian Rocks Beach, FL 33785
727-595-4211
http://www.BestTampaInspector.com

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My understanding is as follows:

If a roof was permitted prior to March 1, 2002, then it is not allowed on
mitigation.  After March 1, 2002, it is allowed.
Above is all counties except HVHZ which is Miami, Dade and Broward.
HVHZ is allowed if permitted after 9/1/1994 and not allowed if prior to that
date. 
Your customer was in October of 2001, so you were right not to allow this.
If he is in HVHZ, the 1994 date applies.

Jack B. Harris
Jacbilt Enterprises, Inc.
www.jacbilt.com

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:24:47 -0400
From: "Mark Tyson" <mtyson at wildblue.net>
Subject: [Florida Code Talk] Wind Mitigation Verification Inspection
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Group,

I need you insight. Last week I did a wind mit inspection on a home where I
was unable to verify thru procedures that I?m aware of that the roof
covering met the minimum requirement of the 2001 Building Code. ( 3 tab
dimensional Shingles)

 

1) I did a public records search and found the roof covering was permitted
in October of 2001.

2) The AHJ or the owner had no record of manufacturer of the roof covering

3) The attachments penetrated the ?? cdx roof sheathing meeting the minimum
penetration requirement but only 4 attachments per shingle

4) No extra shingles at the site and therefore unable to verify manufacture

 

Under does the roof covering meet the requirements of the 2001 Building Code
I checked the box unknown or can not verify

 

My client called today in a rage because his insurance is going to increase
about $ 1,000 per year and was told by his agent that he picked the wrong
inspector. With the information provided have I missed something? 

 

 

Regards,

Mark Tyson

 

Tyson Home Inspections

M Tyson Construction LLC.

of  772.489.9648  mb  561.756.3075  fx  772.465.9731

Certified General Contractor #1516843

http://www.TysonHomeInspections.com

 

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:28:10 -0400
From: "Mark Tyson" <mtyson at wildblue.net>
Subject: [Florida Code Talk] FW: Wind Mitigation Verification
	Inspection
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Sorry, 130mph zone

 

Regards,

Mark Tyson

 

Tyson Home Inspections

M Tyson Construction LLC.

of  772.489.9648  mb  561.756.3075  fx  772.465.9731

Certified General Contractor #1516843

http://www.TysonHomeInspections.com

 

  _____  

From: Mark Tyson [mailto:mtyson at wildblue.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:25 PM
To: 'codetalk at myfloridacode.com'
Subject: Wind Mitigation Verification Inspection

 

Group,

I need you insight. Last week I did a wind mit inspection on a home where I
was unable to verify thru procedures that I?m aware of that the roof
covering met the minimum requirement of the 2001 Building Code. ( 3 tab
dimensional Shingles)

 

1) I did a public records search and found the roof covering was permitted
in October of 2001.

2) The AHJ or the owner had no record of manufacturer of the roof covering

3) The attachments penetrated the ?? cdx roof sheathing meeting the minimum
penetration requirement but only 4 attachments per shingle

4) No extra shingles at the site and therefore unable to verify manufacture

 

Under does the roof covering meet the requirements of the 2001 Building Code
I checked the box unknown or can not verify

 

My client called today in a rage because his insurance is going to increase
about $ 1,000 per year and was told by his agent that he picked the wrong
inspector. With the information provided have I missed something? 

 

 

Regards,

Mark Tyson

 

Tyson Home Inspections

M Tyson Construction LLC.

of  772.489.9648  mb  561.756.3075  fx  772.465.9731

Certified General Contractor #1516843

http://www.TysonHomeInspections.com

 

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:06:28 -0400
From: "Mark Cramer" <mcramer1 at tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Florida Code Talk] Wind Mitigation Verification
	Inspection
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Even though the FBC didn?t go into effect until March of 2002, I?ve heard
that shingle manufacturers were already shipping compliant shingles in 2001.
I think you would be safe assuming they met the requirements in October
2001. 

 

You could always ask the seller to have his roofer provide the documentation
that the shingles meet the code requirements. 

 

Mark Cramer

Mark Cramer Inspection Services, Inc.

492 20th Ave. 

Indian Rocks Beach, FL 33785

727-595-4211

http://www.BestTampaInspector.com

 

From: codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com
[mailto:codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com] On Behalf Of Mark Tyson
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:25 PM
To: codetalk at myfloridacode.com
Subject: [Florida Code Talk] Wind Mitigation Verification Inspection

 

Group,

I need you insight. Last week I did a wind mit inspection on a home where I
was unable to verify thru procedures that I?m aware of that the roof
covering met the minimum requirement of the 2001 Building Code. ( 3 tab
dimensional Shingles)

 

1) I did a public records search and found the roof covering was permitted
in October of 2001.

2) The AHJ or the owner had no record of manufacturer of the roof covering

3) The attachments penetrated the ?? cdx roof sheathing meeting the minimum
penetration requirement but only 4 attachments per shingle

4) No extra shingles at the site and therefore unable to verify manufacture

 

Under does the roof covering meet the requirements of the 2001 Building Code
I checked the box unknown or can not verify

 

My client called today in a rage because his insurance is going to increase
about $ 1,000 per year and was told by his agent that he picked the wrong
inspector. With the information provided have I missed something? 

 

 

Regards,

Mark Tyson

 

Tyson Home Inspections

M Tyson Construction LLC.

of  772.489.9648  mb  561.756.3075  fx  772.465.9731

Certified General Contractor #1516843

http://www.TysonHomeInspections.com

 

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